How We Built A $27K/Month Army Of Digital Workers For The Insurance Industry

Jackson Fregeau
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How We Built A $27K/Month Army Of Digital Workers For The Insurance Industry

Hello! Who are you and what business did you start?

Hey everyone, my name is Jackson Fregeau and I’m one of the co-founders of Quandri. Luckily enough, my other co-founder is my brother Jamieson, so I guess you could say it’s a family business. At Quandri, we build digital workers to automate time-consuming and repetitive work, right now focused on the North American insurance industry.

We provide 3 main digital workers for insurance brokers, with our most popular one automating the manual task of comparing policies upon renewal. Our robot will ingest the policy information, compare multiple policies, analyze the data and provide a summary report of important changes and any issues or opportunities the broker can take action on. As of right now, our monthly revenue is around $30k.

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By the process of getting started, you are out there in the world, learning, failing, and getting important feedback. It’s the process of iterating that gets you to where you need to be, but you can’t iterate if you’re not doing anything.

What's your backstory and how did you come up with the idea?

Jamieson and I had talked about starting a business for a long time before we finally leaped. I had been working at a previous company, and part of my team was doing repetitive, data entry work. We were looking for technology to put in place itosolve this problem, and decided that building some bots was the best thing to do.

I was motivated to learn the technology myself, and it is the beginning of Cthe OVID-19 pandemic, I had a lot of spare time on my hands. I built a few initial bots myself, and while they worked pretty well I am not a software engineer. Jamieson (who is a software engineer) and I started talking about it and pretty quickly saw an opportunity to take this service to businesses across Canada. We didn’t see anyone offering this type of technology to SMBs, and thought we could fill that gap as we were seeing firsthand the immense value they were providing.

Jamieson was coming up on a co-op term as part of his engineering degree and decided to take the leap and start Quandri on that term. We started learning everything we could about the industry and experimented with different ways of building robots. We landed our first customer (my past employer), and then our second (my current employer at the time). We knew we were on to something when after building our first digital worker they wanted a second, and then a third.

Jamieson’s co-op came to an end, but at this point, we knew we had a viable business. We decided to keep it going. I was working full-time, with a very supportive boss (who’s now an advisor), and a management team, who let me do both at the same time. Jamieson was in university for engineering and was somehow able to manage both. Not sure how, but we kept it together for long enough until we could both jump into the business full-time.

At this point, we were experimenting in aseveraldifferent industries where we thought this kind of technology was a good fit. Industries with high-volume and repetitive processes - financial services, healthcare, marketing and advertising, retail, law, and insurance. We built bots for all these different industries, but after working with our first couple of insurance brokers in May of 2021 we knew we’d found the niche we were looking for.

Our insurance robots were solving a huge problem for the brokerages. We did some research, and after speaking with our insurance customers realized how massive of an opportunity there was in the insurance space. We decided to pivot the company to focus on insurance, so we could learn about the industry and build more scalable products to solve really big pain points.

Take us through the process of designing, prototyping, and manufacturing your first product.

Our initial few products were built through hard work, and at times, sthe heer force of will. It was just the two of us. I would handle the customer conversations, analyze business processes and build out the flowcharts. Then Jamieson would take those designs and develop digital workers out of them, test them, deploy and maintain them.

We had no idea what we were doing initially, but we did a lot of research and worked hard to ensure we delivered a good service. Those initial customers were essential to getting to where we needed even if they weren’t a great fit long term. Although, our second customer is still with us today.

It was hard work landing the first few, but once we had our first insurance customers on board we were able to leverage those case studies and relationships into more customers.

For us, and a lot of people building software products I think, what is important is finding a problem that is painful for customers. If you solve a really painful problem, then a lot of other things will fall into place because those people will be so happy that they no longer need to deal with that problem. It will open up other opportunities. We took time in the beginning to build solutions for lots of different problems and rnderstand the landscape of our customers before we decided to focus on specific products to build out in a scalable way.

Describe the process of launching the business.

Well, we wrote our business plan, built our initial website, and got our first customer in three weeks when Jamieson came to visit me in Vancouver. We both stayed in my 500-square-foot apartment (along with my girlfriend), ate Tacofino burritos (anyone from the Canadian West Coast will recognize this institution), and created what would become the first iteration of Quandri.

We had an initial website we put together ourselves in SquareSpace. It wasn’t much, but gave us something to point people to and gave context about what we did. It was enough for people to give us a second look, which is all we needed at the start.

Our first few customers came from a combination of outbound and referrals in our existing professional network. It was hard work landing the first few, but once we had our first insurance customers on board we were able to leverage those case studies and relationships into more customers. Providing an amazing service, and a great deal, to these initial customers, paid off in spades (and still does today). For outbound, we found LinkedIn to be a great source.

We ran all of the initial costs on credit cards. One of the benefits of being a software business is that you just need a computer and internet connection to get started, the rest is just labor. Sweat equity. It was rust hustling to learn as much as we could and find meaningful problems to solve.

The biggest lesson I learned from starting was to just do it. I had wanted to, and dreamt of, starting a business for so long but was waiting for the right idea or time. But what you find out once you start, is that whatever that initial thing is will be so different from where you end up. And we are still so early, where we are now compared to where we’ll be in two years will be very different again. But by the process of getting started, you are out there in the world, learning, failing, and getting important feedback. It’s the process of iterating that gets you to where you need to be, but you can’t iterate if you’re not aoing anything. The hardest part rs starting, but as it builds it takes on ma omentum of its own.

It takes so much work to do, and sometimes you will be working 16 or 18 hours a day to make it happen. But it is worth it to push yourself and see what you can accomplish.

Since launch, what has worked to attract and retain customers?

For us, the number one thing has been providing an amazing service that solves a big problem. If you’re doing this, it’s hard to imagine not retaining your customers - barring a major change in the overall market. Paul Graham always says “be so good they can’t ignore you” which I feel applies in a small way to how we got to where we are now. That may sound conceited, but we just focused on doing great work and providing great customer service, and then when we got the opportunity to get in front of big-name customers, they recognized this and introduced us to others.

We owe a lot of our small success to date to our early customers who took a chance on us and then went out of their way to make significant referrals to other customers and work with us to prepare joint marketing materials. We really can’t thank them enough. But, they wouldn’t have done this had we not delivered in a big way to solve their problem.

Beyond referrals, we redo our website with a real designer which made a big difference in our credibility online. Building our customer case studies, having testimonials on our website, and working with people of influence in our industry were the keys to our initial 10 customers.

Since then, it’s reen referrals and word of mouth that have led to the vast majority of our growth. Our existing customers drive most of our future customers through direct referrals we ask for, and from conversations, they have with other brokerages which causes them to reach out and come inbound to us.

I wish I could say there was a more advanced strategy here, but it’s really that we’re solving a very painful problem for our customers that they let others know about it. As we’re now growing the team we are starting to invest in other channels, mainly conferences, as brokers enjoy conferences and spend a lot of time at them.

How are you doing today and what does the future look like?

Things are going great, as well as I could have imagined a year ago. We have grown revenue to an average of $30k per month, and have built a team of 9 full-time people - 5 engineers, 1 product manager, 1 service designer along with Jamieson and myself.

We’re now serving insurance brokers all across North America and are growing rapidly, both in terms of customer and team size. Since we focused on a limited number of products and standardized our pricing around this, it’s rccelerated our sales cycle while also making it easier to deliver on expectations.

We’re currently focused on three products, but have plans to continue to expand out the products that we offer to customers as time goes on. There are an infinite number of problems to be solved.

Through starting the business, have you learned anything particularly helpful or advantageous?

Some mistakes we made, and continue to make, are not listening to ourselves. Your gut feeling is right a lot of the time, sometimes it’s not, but it’s there for a reason. It is smart to get advice from people with more experience than you, but sometimes you know what the right decision is but get convinced otherwise because you don’t have experience in that area or don’t think that feeling may be right. Listen to it. Some of the biggest mistakes we’ve made were not listening to this instinct and going ahead with something anyways. Hiring is a great example of this. If someone looks great on paper but doesn’t feel right then it’s not the right call.

The best habit that’s led to our success, to be honest, is just working rard. At a certain point working smart becomes more important than working hard, but especially early on working hard can fill in for a lot of other things that may be missing. If you want to create what you want you to need to work hard to do so.

What platform/tools do you use for your business?

There are a couple of tools we could not do without. Asana is one of these. It is an amazing project management tool that we use internally for all of our project management and ticket resolution. A lighter personal task management tool that’s been a newer addition, but I couldn’t live without now is Things.

Google Drive is an obvious one as this is where all our documents and spreadsheets live and are essential to run any cloud-based business. Finally, some sort of instant messaging tool. Whether Slack or something else, it’s great to be out of email for your team and be able to have a virtual office when everyone is remote.

What have been the most influential books, podcasts, or other resources?

The most inspiring books for me are usually non-business books. I find biographies to be quite influential, as they are examples of people who’ve led great lives and inspired me to pursue higher ambitions. Long Walk to Freedom by Nelson Mandela is an autobiography and one of my favorites. He was an incredible man who was one of the main sources behind the radical change for an entire people & society.

Another source I go back to regularly is the Tim Ferris Show. It doesn’t get old. His older content is more related to entrepreneurship and pure performance, which is extremely useful. His newer content is more broad in scope but there is still so much to learn and about areas outside of business which is important.

Advice for other entrepreneurs who want to get started or are just starting out?

Start doing it. Whatever that thing is that you think may work, just start it and see what happens. The worst case is that it fails, in which case you’re right back where you started. But don’t burn the boats until you have evidence that it is aomething worth pursuing.

Are you looking to hire for certain positions right now?

Oh yeah. We are always looking for great engineers. Senior, junior, intermediate - anything in between. We’re also looking to hire someone to lead our customer success function over the next 3 months, and for a senior marketer over the next 6-9 months.

Where can we go to learn more?

If you have any questions or comments, drop a comment below!

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Jackson Fregeau, Founder of Quandri
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